tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post7624491106488869753..comments2024-03-18T10:29:20.125-08:00Comments on TriloBoat Talk: Floating Your Boat - Musings on Wherewithal (Income)Dave Zhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-84774880942737126512013-11-20T20:10:30.167-09:002013-11-20T20:10:30.167-09:00HI Annie,
Honored to have you join us! Your book ...HI Annie,<br /><br />Honored to have you join us! Your book has been very influential in our lives.<br /><br />Thanks for the correction (UK, rather than US gov't bonds)... I'll update the post accordingly.<br /><br />The extreme drop in world bond interest rates has been a sore loss to investors following this strategy. Their value, as I understand it, was in their secure and known return, plus relative ease of cashing out? Have you a 'next best thing' to suggest?<br /><br />Meanwhile, congratulations on having enough, something which can be achieved from many directions; especially the voluntary simplicity you've championed! <br /><br />Dave ZDave Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-10443011281808588092013-11-20T12:20:32.348-09:002013-11-20T12:20:32.348-09:00Hey, Dave - I never had US Govt stocks - they were...Hey, Dave - I never had US Govt stocks - they were UK. Now I hardly have any - Pete went off with them and when we divorced the returns from them were so low that the amount I had to invest wouldn't give me a liveable income. Now, for better or for worse, I have to use a Financial Advisor to look after my money. But at least I have enough both to live on and to save.Annie Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839484196732830052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-7863701730965905932012-03-03T15:12:09.766-09:002012-03-03T15:12:09.766-09:00Useful information ..I am very happy to read this ...Useful information ..I am very happy to read this article..thanks for giving us this useful information. Fantastic walk-through. I appreciate this post.BoatParadise Classifiedshttp://www.boatparadise.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-33654416574496758042012-01-27T10:29:12.407-09:002012-01-27T10:29:12.407-09:00Hi Shemaya,
That is an odd pair of rules. Here th...Hi Shemaya,<br /><br />That is an odd pair of rules. Here they are in their full form:<br /><br />5. You can never give money away. Looked at over a period of time, money flows in certain channels, like electricity through wires. The wires define the relationship, and the flow is the significant thing to look at. The fifth law of money suggests that by looking at the gift in a larger or longer-term perspective, we will see that it is part of a two-way flow.<br /><br />6. You can never really receive money as a gift. Money is either borrowed or lent or possibly invested. It is never given or received without those concepts implicit in it. Giving money requires some payment; if it's not repaid the nightmare elements enter into it. A gift of money is really a contract; it's really a repayable loan, and it requires performance and an accounting of performance that is satisfactory to the giver.<br /><br />***<br /><br />I can see how Law 5 sets up long-term relationships. A donation to, say, Doctors Without Borders, is both attracted and furthered by the quality of the services they provide. Should that quality change, so would the flow of money.<br /><br />To my way of thinking, though, a gift is not a gift if it comes with strings. I DO believe money can be gifted or shared. But add in the long term, and subsequent gifts/sharing may or may not be 'inspired'.<br /><br />I take Rule 6 as cautionary. I'm generally VERY leery about receiving money gifts or sharing as I DO often experience strings (ill defined or unspoken contract terms), and in myself, often feel obliged. Both very uncomfortable to me.<br /><br />In terms of sharing, I'm not so sure that money IS unique... when relationships are strong and functioning, no contract is necessary, but often when they change... WHOOBoy! Who owns what portion of which become big questions, whose answers depend on who shared what and how much, and upon which the remains of the relationships often founder. Contracts and accounts help immensely, though distasteful and imperfect.<br /><br />At some point, I'll write about what Anke and I refer to as 'the Gift Economy', which is how we handle domestic sharing.<br /><br />-Dave ZDave Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-31805068709346614172012-01-26T12:19:06.297-09:002012-01-26T12:19:06.297-09:00Hi Dave,
Here's a little something for when y...Hi Dave, <br />Here's a little something for when you get back from the Big Freeze. So much interesting material in this post. One bit that really jumped out at me from the 7 "laws" -- about that you can never give money away, and you can never receive a gift of money. Some fascinating ideas, as well as assumptions, there! No mention of "sharing" for example. Not that I think this is simple, especially when it comes to money, but still worthy of discussion!<br /><br />People share food, they share artwork, they share help with doing things, in the form of energy and/or expertise, and on and on. Not that I have the answer to this question, but I do puzzle on it: what's so unique about money that it can't be shared without a contract?<br /><br />And if we, as a society, could figure this out, maybe everybody could get to do more of what they/we would like to be doing, with this precious life energy!<br /><br />So I'm curious about your thoughts off in this direction!<br /><br />-- ShemayaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-30526072517808121342012-01-16T19:01:35.215-09:002012-01-16T19:01:35.215-09:00Hi Gomez,
Check out www.sailtransportcompany.com/...Hi Gomez,<br /><br />Check out www.sailtransportcompany.com/... they've gotten started in Puget Sound running sail and human-power only freight hauling and delivery.Dave Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-25613308353254413542012-01-16T08:45:57.598-09:002012-01-16T08:45:57.598-09:00"Im going to assume that you, oike me, would ..."Im going to assume that you, oike me, would rather be sailing". One possibility is combining the two by operating a trading vessel. Same percentage of income too: a small hold for supplementing, a big one for full time biz endeavoring. Maybe a base(boat) and a smaller trader (security if trader sinks). Or a liveaboard large hold trader. Oil's running out. Someone has to fill this need.BonRobihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03849833072756870997noreply@blogger.com