tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post7471098285846518552..comments2024-03-18T10:29:20.125-08:00Comments on TriloBoat Talk: Seaweirdy: A Case StudyDave Zhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-18193929605418358592017-01-10T12:57:05.833-09:002017-01-10T12:57:05.833-09:00Hi John,
Right you are. A hull can survive consid...Hi John,<br /><br />Right you are. A hull can survive considerably more than the crew can or would care to tolerate!<br /><br />Generally I'd agree re sail vs power, though, on the average, I'd still prefer a sailboat. Power boats tend to have a very narrow range of stability, and often lack provisions for excluding water in a knock down/roll over. Not universal, but common.<br /><br />RE Foam... some of the accounts I read reported Irish Coastguardsmen stating that the hull was "not awash on arrival", and that it was "surprisingly well built". Most of the break-up began after fetching up in surf. Not sure when those side-planks went.<br /><br />All in all, I still wouldn't recommend that boat for that crossing. Big diff between 'can do' and 'should do'!<br /><br />Dave ZDave Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-7787076576465797662017-01-10T12:46:38.015-09:002017-01-10T12:46:38.015-09:00Posted on behalf of JOHN:
It should be noted that...Posted on behalf of JOHN:<br /><br />It should be noted that neither light bulbs nor bottles care if they are right-side-up or up-side-down.<br /><br />Also, since most capsizes are caused by wind as well as waves, all other things being equal, a sailboat (with its tall mast and possibly sails) will be more vulnerable to capsize than a non-sail boat.<br /><br />Like you said, "Apples to Oranges"<br /><br />It also appears that the lower hull was stuffed with foam, which would have kept it afloat even though some side boards were missing, and surely many of the other boards were leaking.<br /><br />JohnDave Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-6845359370220682092017-01-09T09:56:55.932-09:002017-01-09T09:56:55.932-09:00Hi Bob,
World girdling girders... I like that!
W...Hi Bob,<br /><br />World girdling girders... I like that!<br /><br />We get a lot of trans-pacific light bulbs, too. Glass floats and bottles of various sizes are a little tougher, but all demonstrate that it's not so much the water as the shore that'll gitcha.<br /><br />One of the sea-going principles of relatively light, shoal boats is that they 'give' when slapped by a wave, skittering away from the blow and NOT absorbing much impact. <br /><br />Heavy keel boats, on the other hand, have considerable interia and their keels 'anchor' the boat in place (relative to a beam sea). While giving before waves is important to them, too, they must absorb considerably more force.<br /><br />I believe this is one reason why shoal boats are so often considered to be inherently UNseaworthy (contrary to evidence); they are judged by intuitions inspired by successful deep draft boats.<br /><br />Apples to oranges.<br /><br />Dave ZDave Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-40222723653552267232017-01-08T15:52:03.719-09:002017-01-08T15:52:03.719-09:00Seaworthy as a coconut, it seems. Coconuts have ma...Seaworthy as a coconut, it seems. Coconuts have made epic voyages. Shipping containers too are known for their hearty endurance, resistance to discomfort, amiable shipmate qualities, and they do not eat much ships stores. Fine company... these stoutly constructed world girdlers.Robertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320063715736110902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-6671369369689978232017-01-08T13:42:46.073-09:002017-01-08T13:42:46.073-09:00Hi Dennis,
We square boaters are certainly often ...Hi Dennis,<br /><br />We square boaters are certainly often considered to have a low bar, before we even set out! 8)<br /><br />I find it striking how often a boat of reasonably good build will not only carry incompetent crew successfully, but that it (and the sea) so very often transform the incompetent into true sailors.<br /><br />While I don't recommend going to sea unprepared, that IS encouraging!<br /><br />Dave ZDave Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-37104302901682568722017-01-08T07:44:14.100-09:002017-01-08T07:44:14.100-09:00That is encouraging news, the bar to meet as a com...That is encouraging news, the bar to meet as a competent captain for a successful Atlantic crossing in a square boat is "empty chair". Now as long as my decisions are better than complete random chance I should be good to go. Dennis Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04525900170454935174noreply@blogger.com