tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post7853102384271820905..comments2024-03-18T10:29:20.125-08:00Comments on TriloBoat Talk: Considering Multihull TriloBoatsDave Zhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-79756383753526502102020-07-11T13:28:27.366-08:002020-07-11T13:28:27.366-08:00This recently in:
Michael Schacht, a designer of ...This recently in:<br /><br />Michael Schacht, a designer of considerably more skill than myself has designed what looks to me to be a fully functional, square-section trimaran, based on rotating the section 45deg (as described in the post, above).<br /><br />You can read about it, here:<br /><br />https://proafile.com/multihull-boats/article/the-bug-out-boat<br /><br />Dave ZDave Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-67743510941102004952020-07-11T13:18:48.848-08:002020-07-11T13:18:48.848-08:00Hi Tim,
I agree with pointy bows for multihulls.....Hi Tim,<br /><br />I agree with pointy bows for multihulls... the doodle at the beginning of the post is as you suggest. Cutwaters are relatively easy to add, and these can help, too.<br /><br />It's possible on larger hulls that the forefoot can be kept below the waterline. Benford dories, for example, do this without apparent problems. That would certainly help.<br /><br />Happy wife; happy life! Good luck with decisions.<br /><br />Dave ZDave Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-88455108639727315712020-07-07T12:10:15.165-08:002020-07-07T12:10:15.165-08:00Dave,
I've often thought of Box shaped hulls f...Dave,<br />I've often thought of Box shaped hulls for a catamaran, I'm not sure if if the dream came from this post or I found this post running down a dream...<br />Instead of box/barge front end, why not keep the bottom flat and bring the hull sides to a point at the stem? Should be a nice slicing entry into the waves. At 48x4 I don't see the windward hull flying and presenting the pounding problem, but I'm not at all experienced with catamarans. Perhaps a mast in each hull to keep the CE low would keep the lift on the windward hull minimal. My wife will tell you that I'm both stubborn and dumb enough to actually build one of these. <br />I've been vacillating between a T32x12 and Wharram Tiki 37 and I can't really seem to make up my mind. Just when one idea has a set itself in my head, something comes along and brings the other idea to the fore.<br />Anyway the goal is to do the great loop, sooner rather than later.<br />Thanks for the blog!<br />tim<br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00461369280452589928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-33659893808001366122018-09-02T14:51:53.627-08:002018-09-02T14:51:53.627-08:00I fuggin love this idea!I fuggin love this idea!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03866874098663526877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-86610169828223799012016-12-24T09:40:43.952-09:002016-12-24T09:40:43.952-09:00I keep coming back to this post, Dave.... incredib...I keep coming back to this post, Dave.... incredibly romantic to figure out a 48X4 box proa. Good info here to harvest. December 23rd, 2016.Robertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320063715736110902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-15660984187638501742016-02-04T15:14:23.974-09:002016-02-04T15:14:23.974-09:00Shucks, Y'all, ya make me blush.
But I do lov...Shucks, Y'all, ya make me blush.<br /><br />But I do love a cookie... I'm a weak man.<br /><br />DZDave Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-21564900047662884662016-02-04T15:11:12.695-09:002016-02-04T15:11:12.695-09:00Hi En Proa,
The Vaka is the main hull of a proa? ...Hi En Proa,<br /><br />The Vaka is the main hull of a proa? I see that the ama (outrigger, if I have the term right) looks to be a V hull?<br /><br />Nice model!<br /><br />Dave ZDave Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13241033623115158564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-14067105974282430522016-02-03T17:23:24.616-09:002016-02-03T17:23:24.616-09:00Epoxy chip! Yummy!!!!!Epoxy chip! Yummy!!!!!Robertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320063715736110902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-76743701583129530902016-02-02T17:07:01.744-09:002016-02-02T17:07:01.744-09:00"I'll add to the litany of adulation by s..."I'll add to the litany of adulation by saying, from personally seeing it on numerous occasions, that the way you demolish a package of store bought cookies is highly admirable. Not my personal choice for boatbuilding fuel but, hey, it sure seems to work for you. In fact, perhaps fodder for another essential boat building cog blog post: the prime role of a rack of store bought cookies for efficient marine construction."<br /><br />The impact on my 'adulation' level would of course depend on the flavor of cookie.<br />Yodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11955078083178330883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-14048981430143955322016-02-02T11:48:09.973-09:002016-02-02T11:48:09.973-09:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyyaOJWmZHU
Slend...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyyaOJWmZHU<br /><br />Slender barge hulls make great proa vakas!En proa och en kopp té!https://www.blogger.com/profile/17332344338127961606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-5699195630721336332016-01-31T11:49:41.318-09:002016-01-31T11:49:41.318-09:00I'll add to the litany of adulation by saying,...I'll add to the litany of adulation by saying, from personally seeing it on numerous occasions, that the way you demolish a package of store bought cookies is highly admirable. Not my personal choice for boatbuilding fuel but, hey, it sure seems to work for you. In fact, perhaps fodder for another essential boat building cog blog post: the prime role of a rack of store bought cookies for efficient marine construction.<br /><br />All that aside I'd add that some of Gary Dierkings outrigger canoes are essentially long and lean trilo hulls and do quite well. We're talking proas here basically and with a bit more heel than cats. In addition a proas connecting beams are much less stressed thus less materials. And the much necessary floatation bubble that hangs off the leeward side would be easy to construct on a squarish trilo hull. Proven to be very safe at sea in knockdown situations! It would have to be fairly long to get any real interior space but the beauty of multis, besides their cushy-magnificent ride offshore, is in-harbor tropical sprawl space. With awnings here and there, and a shitpot of kayaks and tenders on deck, what a nice home in some tropical archipelago.<br /><br />Lastly, Gary Leepaks bi-plane junk rigged cat "Dragon Wings" had 7.5 to 1 hulls. It performed well (semi-V hull though) and he traded speed for that wonderful cat ride. If one is down with this trade-off (wise in a time of random lost shipping containers dotting the worlds oceans) then it can apply to a host of multihull designs.<br /><br />Never say never..... trilos have great potential for multihull configurations. Just needs a pioneer to fine tune the concept in the real world.Robertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18320063715736110902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3580987459140037495.post-53541166198673041132016-01-30T22:13:47.107-09:002016-01-30T22:13:47.107-09:00Hi Dave,
Synchronicity (n.) – “the coincidental o...Hi Dave,<br /><br />Synchronicity (n.) – “<i>the coincidental occurrence of events and especially psychic events (as similar thoughts in widely separated persons or a mental image of an unexpected event before it happens) that seem related but are not explained by conventional mechanisms of causality – used especially in the psychology of C. G. Jung”</i> (Webster)<br /><br />* Though other questions of mine have received more attention from me, the one of multihull triloboats has been on a quiet but persistent backburner. Your synchronous blog post hit the spot there.<br /><br />* Since you don’t have a blog post titled, “<i><b>So, How Cool Am I?</b></i>”, I’ve been pondering which random post to use to drop a general compliment into. And just when I went to look through your blog in earnest … I found this new excellent example <i>and</i> potential compliment bucket. Nicely done.<br /><br />-----------------------------<br /><br />I am inquisitive and capable enough to have been the bane of many of my teachers and answerers-du-jour over the years. Some could not answer. Some did not want to work that hard. A few actually admitted it. <br /><br />Over the course of many years and thousands of questions, I’ve noticed patterns. Some patterns seem to mature into conclusions. One of those is the elusive connection between intelligence, knowledge, and teaching talent.<br /><br />While far too complex for a blog comment, I’ll summarize. I believe there are positive correlations between intelligence, and capacities for knowledge and teaching talent. However, there are many, many more intelligent, knowledge people who <i>cannot</i> explain or teach what they know to save their lives than the opposite. I encounter them regularly. Even when I redesign and simplify the question for them repeatedly, and serve it up as if we’re playing T-ball, they just can’t hit it. A conundrum for sure.<br /><br />On the other hand, there are relatively few, with seemingly equal intelligence, who can use their accumulated knowledge and better understanding in an uncommonly useful way. They manage to overcome the standard “it depends” obstacle that stops so many others. They manage to hold their egos in check and to avoid showboating their superiority. They manage to actually take a minute to consider what the other person needs vs. what they themselves <i>want</i> to say. They are successful at squeezing themselves like an orange to produce the drops of juice most salient to a situation, leaving the rest behind, and passing those drops on to others in a way that meets the less knowledgeable person where that person is, not where they themselves are. Having cracked the code on what it actually means, they alone are worthy of the title of ‘teacher’.<br /><br />You, Dave, are that rare, valuable second type of person. That is your gift (and sometimes your curse ;-), and you share it willingly. This blog post is but one small example of that.<br /><br />I thank you for it.<br /><br />Yoda<br /><br />======================================Yodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11955078083178330883noreply@blogger.com